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Highly Sensitive Humans Podcast
The Highly Sensitive Humans Podcast offers insight into the world of the Highly Sensitive Person, and helps those who identify with the traits of high sensitivity to feel more empowered and resilient without denying their authentic gifts.
Highly Sensitive Humans Podcast
Nurturing Sensitivity in Children: The Highly Sensitive Rabbit with Dr. Judith Orloff
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In this episode, I sit down with Judith Orloff, MD, New York Times bestselling author, psychiatrist, and empath, to explore her new children’s book, The Highly Sensitive Rabbit. This beautifully illustrated story introduces Aurora, a sensitive little rabbit who learns to embrace her gifts rather than feel ashamed of them.
Dr. Orloff shares insights on:
✨ Why sensitivity is a gift, not a flaw
✨ Practical tools children can use to manage overwhelm
✨ The importance of boundaries, supportive conversations, and alone time
✨ How The Highly Sensitive Rabbit can empower children (and adults with sensitive inner children) to celebrate who they are
This heartwarming discussion will inspire parents, teachers, and sensitive souls of all ages to nurture sensitivity as a strength.
👉 Learn more about Dr. Orloff’s work and explore her books at www.drjudithorloff.com
Order The Highly Sensitive Rabbit here
📚 Featured titles by Dr Orloff:
- The Highly Sensitive Rabbit
- The Genius of Empathy
- The Empath’s Survival Guide
- Thriving as an Empath
About the Host: Jules De Vitto is a transpersonal coach, trainer and experienced educator for Highly Sensitive People. She helps those who identify with the traits of high sensitivity to navigate emotional overwhelm, step into their authentic power and align with their true purpose in life. She is a published author and wrote one of a series of books on Resilience, Navigating Loss in a time of Crisis. Her research has also been published in the Transpersonal Coaching Psychology Journal and Journal of Consciousness, Spirituality, and Transpersonal Psychology.
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Welcome, I'm your host Jules DeVito, and you're listening to the Highly Sensitive Human Podcast. The show that offers an insight into the world of the highly sensitive person and helps those who identify with the traits of high sensitivity to feel more empowered and resilient without denying their authentic gifts.
SPEAKER_01Welcome to today's episode where I'm really excited to be talking with Judith Orloff, who is a New York Times best-selling author, a psychiatrist, and an empath. She is the author of the upcoming children's book, The Highly Sensitive Rabbit, which is about a caring cottontail who was shamed for her sensitivities, but then learns to embrace them. Dr. Orloff's other books include The Genius of Empathy, The Empath's Survival Guide, and Thriving as an Empath. Dr. Orloff also specializes in working with highly sensitive people in her medical practice.
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SPEAKER_01Orloff's work has been featured on the Today Show, CNN, Oprah magazine, The New York Times, and USA Today. So welcome, Judith. Thank you so much for being on the podcast today. You're very welcome. So I'm really looking forward to talking about this topic with you today and talking about your soon-to-be published book, The Highly Sensitive Rabbit. But before we go into that, I'd love to hear a bit more about your personal story. So this podcast is all about high sensitivity. And so, yeah, how did you get into this work and what's your story of being a highly sensitive person?
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm a psychiatrist in Los Angeles, and I'm also an empath. So I combine my traditional medical skills with the sensibilities of being an empath, and it's a natural combination. You know, at this point I see it as that. I didn't always, but I was a highly sensitive child. I was shamed for my abilities. I felt that there was something wrong with me. People kept calling me overly sensitive and not having a thick enough skin. And I felt like there was something in me that needed to change that wasn't right. And it's a terrible feeling that many highly sensitive children have. And so I grew up believing there was something wrong with me. And so my healing journey, of course, has been to realize that that's not true and that being an empath and a highly sensitive person is a gift. But we have to learn how to use certain strategies in order to take care of ourselves and calm down and set limits, take a breath, all these things we need to learn so we don't get on sensory overload. And so because of personal reasons, I'm just so passionate about this because I'm constantly discovering more about being an empath and more techniques and more, you know, wonderful things about it and how to connect and go deeper with animals, with people, with nature, with patience, with you know, the sky, you know, empaths just have and and highly sensitive people have a deep connection with life. And that's what I love about it so much. And sometimes children like myself, they get stopped, they get shamed, they go inward, they think there's something wrong with them. And that's what I wanted to write, the highly sensitive rabbit. Um, her name's Aurora, and she's highly sensitive, of course, but she was shamed for her ability. So it was sort of loosely based on my childhood as well and how she came into her power. Um, and it's, you know, I found when I wrote the book, it's much easier to write about animals with animals as characters than people. You know, it's it just gives you a lot more freedom. Um plus I love animals as many empaths do. Um it's a thrill to talk about animals.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. And I'm curious, you've mentioned being a highly sensitive person and also being an empath. And just for the listeners, would you be able to just share a bit more about your understanding of what it means to be an empath and a highly sensitive person? Because you mentioned some of the abilities that we have. So, from your experience, what what are those abilities?
SPEAKER_02That's well, a highly sensitive person is somebody who has extreme sensitivity to sensory input, like smells, sounds, busyness. Um very highly sensitive to that, or scratchy labels, or anything that doesn't feel good on the body. Um, textures are very important to highly sensitive people, or if somebody speaks in a loud tone of voice, or if there's too much noise, highly sensitive people are very affected, or can be very affected by this. Um, but the way I'm defining empath is it's all of the traits of the highly sensitive person. Plus, they tend to be an emotional sponge who takes on the stress of the world and is able to feel that stress and let go of it. So you can be a highly sensitive person without being an empath, but you can be an empath and a highly sensitive person together. And I think Aurora, the character in the book, is both, my sense.
SPEAKER_01Right, yes. And that's something I can relate to as well. And you know, something that really excited me when I found out about this book that you've written is the fact it's for children. And I find that there are so many highly sensitive and empathetic children that are really, really struggling, especially in the world that we live now. So yeah, I'd love to hear a bit more about the book. What what what is the the story of Aurora and uh as a highly sensitive rabbit? What what is the journey that you take her on in the book?
SPEAKER_02Uh she is has uh two brothers and sisters, and she has a caring mother, and they live in the Sonoran desert, which I put the book in the desert because most children's books are put in the forest. So I wanted to introduce kids to another amazing environment with all the desert animals, and in the end of the book, there are pictures of each desert animal and who they are and what they look like. So about 10 of them who befriend Aurora and teach her how to be a highly sensitive, empowered rabbit versus a highly sensitive, upset rabbit. And so she had these siblings that called her crybaby, that didn't want to play with her, that said what's wrong with her, and kind of isolated her. Um, so she was shamed. And she had a mother who didn't know how to handle it. She wasn't like a bad mother, but she said, Oh, I just think you're you're too sensitive. That's like a very bad thing to say. I don't, I never support that because it's not true. Uh, not too, how can someone be too sensitive? They might be absorbing too much and they need to center themselves, but sensitivity itself is a gift, and so Aurora, and there's a big storm that comes upon the land and uh it destroys their home. And so this is absolutely devastating to her. Um and as they're rebuilding, she's going off on her own and meeting desert animals. She's quite distraught. Um, and she meets the javelina, which is a beautiful animal of the desert, a wild boar. And they talk about what do you do when I feel overwhelmed? What do I do? And and the javelina says, Well, talk to someone like me. It's good to have a friend, because I understand. I'm the same way. And so she meets various animals who give her tools to use when she gets overwhelmed, when she feels like the world is just too much. And so, with their help and their love, she can go back to her family and feel stronger and more certain of her gifts. And one point I wanted to make in the book is that just because you make new friends doesn't mean you have to be with them all the time. And Aurora, what she loved the most is looking up at the moon, as I did as a child. And many empaths love the moon, they love looking up at the moon. And so sometimes she would just go out in the desert next to the cacti and just look up at the moon by herself. And sometimes she would go with her javelina friend, and so she had that option. And I want kids to know that they don't have to be with people all the time, and they could just be by themselves and feel really good about it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, fantastic. I think this is a really important message, and for myself, I'm also an introvert. I'm highly sensitive, an empath, and introverted. So, what you're speaking to, you know, as a child, that would have been such an important message for myself to know that it was okay to spend time on my own. And absolutely, I loved looking at the moon as well and being in nature. And so you mentioned that along her journey she meets many other animals who offer her tools and resources to help her feel more empowered. So, what are some of those tools and and what might you recommend to a highly sensitive person who is struggling?
SPEAKER_02Yes, that's such a wonderful question. And it's the tools that we all need to learn. And so it's important to be able to, you know, even with young children, really young children, to learn these tools right away or as soon as possible when they're young, so they get used to it and they can you know grow up and have those tools, you know, at their disposal. And so, for instance, Aurora meets a cactus wren. It's a kind of bird that's really cute that lives on cactuses. And a cactus wren offers advice when I feel overwhelmed, I like to fly away and spend time by myself. After a while, I feel better and ready to join my family again. You should try it. So that was one simple tool that one animal to the to the other shares. And I love that. I love that if we can help each other, and that's what's so great is that if you're an empath or highly sensitive person, you're not alone. Believe me, there's so many of us out there. I mean, I get thousands of emails all the time saying I am my life has changed once I've found out I was highly sensitive or an empath. No, my life has changed. I realize there's nothing wrong with me. And so in this book, she meets other desert animals, and so Aurora tried it and it helped. So they teach her these skills and she try she tries them. And then here's another one. What's a a Western spotted skunk? asked Aurora. Beautiful creatures, these spotted skunks. Sometimes my family really hurts my feelings, Aurora said. When people hurt my feelings, I let them know, the skunk says. You should try it. So Aurora did, and even though it didn't always work, eventually her brothers and sisters, Clover, Moonbeam, and Ash, stopped picking on her so much. So those are a couple of tools and how they were communicated through the love of the desert animals.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, brilliant. And as you're speaking, I'm wondering so who would benefit from reading this book? Obviously, it's written for children. Is there a particular age range? Is it more for girls or boys? And how would the parents respond to this book as well? Because you know, I find that often sensitivity uh seems to be more accepted in in girls. And I'm wondering what's your perspective on the boys that might be struggling as well, or even yet the parents.
SPEAKER_02Yes, uh, definitely. Well, this book is to be read with the parents and the child, or the grandparents and the parents and the child, or the grandparents and the child, um, or friends of the child, or an adult who has a highly sensitive child within who wants to nurture it to read the book. So it's you know, even though it's a quote, children's book, you know, it's a book for all people who love the highly sensitive in themselves, in others, in children, in 90-year-olds, you know, it's we we want to celebrate it in everyone. So even though this is a children's book, anyone could pick it up and feel happy from it and feel reaffirmed in terms of what they need to do in their lives to take care of themselves, to set boundaries, to take a breath, to do a three-minute meditation, to taking a long time. These are all tools that we can benefit from, and I use in my life all the time. Uh, and so it's just here, it's in the context of a book with beautiful illustrations. Katie Tannis is the illustrator, and she just loves animals. She when people have a love of animals, the animals look, you know, you can see the love coming through the animals as opposed to these cartoon animals, which I've looked at various children's books, and I'm not fond of the cartoon image. You know, it looks like it's animated, and I don't like that. So this I much prefer. It's just the beauty and sweetness in the animals.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. And I can really resonate with that as I had the pleasure of reading the book recently, and the illustrations are beautiful, and I could really relate to what you were saying about the inner child and my inner child really responding to the story. And I used to be a primary school teacher, and I just wanted to add that I could really imagine this book being so valuable in the classroom and being read by teachers and being shared with the students, because I think there's a lot of highly sensitive children who are really struggling in the classroom and the education system and feeling alone. It would be brilliant for teachers if any teachers out there are interested.
SPEAKER_02Yes, that's a that's a wonderful idea. And you know, it's my dream to have this book in libraries and in the classrooms so that the children could just pick it up and they could read it, or the adults can pick it up, and like teachers, there's you know, so important, they're right in the center of how to help. And if they see a child who's highly sensitive, they can read a little bit of the book to them, and so that the child feels understood. Because the the main thing that a child feels is that they feel like they don't belong, or they feel weird, or they, you know, not part of the whole scene in in school rooms, because it just they they go to the corner or they go to the you know, somewhere or not that's not in the middle of all the activity because they don't like all the hubbub. So it's a it's a different sensibility, it's more of the artist's sensibility, I think. Um at least introverted artists. There have been so many artists who are introverted throughout time because they need that space and time within to create. Right, right. So these burgeoning empaths and highly sensitive people also need that for their their being to be full and to feel safe. As most or many highly sensitive children don't feel safe in the world, and then they become hyper-vigilant about who's gonna hurt them, who's gonna be loud, who's gonna disrupt their peace of mind. You know, they're always judging and sensing, and it, you know, you can kind of ward that off in the beginning with children to help them feel safe and help them make themselves feel safe. Because this world, people who are not highly sensitive don't realize how coarse it is, and how sometimes just walking down the street with lots of people can be a real challenge. You know that they're not cut off, they're not just living in their heads and empathic children, they're feeling things, they're open, they tend to get overwhelmed, or on the on the pleasant side, they tend to absorb all the positive energy and the love and the creation and the creativity. Um, oftentimes, highly sensitive children go into the healthcare professions and become helpers because they love to help others, and that's fine, except they don't want to help too much and drain their themselves all the time.
SPEAKER_01There has to be a balance. Absolutely. And so you've mentioned some really important tools that highly sensitive children and adults can apply. So things like boundaries, managing the overwhelm, finding safety, making sure that we have time alone when we need it. So, what could you imagine this leading to for a highly sensitive child or even a parent who reads this book and starts to implement these tools? What can that support with in terms of the gifts of the highly sensitive person?
SPEAKER_02The child is filled with gifts, but they might not be aware of them because they're more focused on the challenges. And simply um going on sensory overload is a big challenge for children. Um, because then they tantrum, and then you know, they might just really, you know, get overwrought if if it's not dealt with correctly, which is to model what it is to be centered when you're talking to the child at that time. You can't be upset and off-center at the same time and expect the child to calm down because it's it's you have to be the the buffer, you have to be the safe place, you have to be the centered place. And I know it's crazy with parenting, you're not always in that place, but it's it's time to take yourself away for two minutes as a parent and just take a breath, just calm down, come back to yourself, take a micro minute to come back to yourself and then approach the tantruming child as how you are as a parent will affect if the child calms down or not.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. And I'm wondering, do you have any other tips that you would recommend for parents who are struggling to stay centered? So taking a breath, uh, slowing down, and is there anything else that a parent can do if they are highly sensitive themselves, but also have a highly sensitive child because it can be extremely challenging, as you pointed out.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I I've also written a book called The Empath Survival Guide, which is for all empaths, and it's a basic handbook of various issues you'll face as an empath, you know, such as emotions, falling in love, work, and physical illness and all that. And so there's a chapter on empathic parenting, which I think would be helpful to parents. So basically, you know, you need to find a way to parent where you have little tiny bits of time away from the child, you know, and this could be if you have help, of course, that's a lot easier, but not everybody has help. Um, but to be able to go in the bathroom or go into your bedroom and tell the child, I'm mommy's taking care of herself now. So I'd like you to stay here if you if you can, or if you have help, the help will nurture the child in the meantime. But for you to take just even a little bit of time. It doesn't have to be like a half hour or anything. It would be great if it was a half hour if you had it. But to be able to just stop, breathe, connect, take a breath, put your hand on your heart. And this is what parents do for children to calm them down, this hand on the heart. You can do that to yourself. So you could begin to feel like yourself again and not just an overwrought person who's about to say something you regret. Self-care and figuring out the time thing, you know, really trying to get these micro breaks that could help you come back together. And also, you know, eating a good diet with protein in it will help ground you. It's going without food is not the answer to good parenting. You have to have your blood sugar in a good spot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, fantastic. And that's really modeling it for the children as well, isn't it? As you've said, if as a parent you're not regulated and you're off-center, then the children are yeah, responding to your stress, to your anxiety. So to really model it for the children, and I feel this book can do that because, as you've pointed out, if the parent and the child is reading it together, or the teacher and the child, or the grandparent and the child, then it's an opportunity to co-regulate and find that center as a family, as a community.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, exactly. And my my um partner's grandson is on the autistic spectrum. And when I was um making this book, creating this book, I showed him the cover and I said, What do you think, Caesar? And he looked at it and it's got really wide because it's a really sweet cover. And he goes, Let's read it. And that's the perfect response. Like he had an impulse to read it, you know, and I think he's not alone as a child. You know, I I I suspect when I when I start going out and doing my events, it'll be interesting to see the children's reactions to the visuals um and the simple talking, you know what they're going to react to and what they go to. I love watching how children move towards something naturally, like what page they like, or what animal they like, or what boundary they like? You know, I I love just watching that because you can talk about it, but once they get their hands on the book, they can look at it. It could become their book.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yeah, absolutely. And do you have a favorite part of the book or a favorite character? I'm I'm curious. Is there something in the book that yeah pulls you the most when you were writing it?
SPEAKER_02Well, yes, I have a secret favorite love of the javelina, and most people don't even know what javelinas are. They're wild desert boar, and they're wild, but they're very, they can be very sweet, and they're they're wild creatures, which I love, but there's a sweetness to them. Um, and I I just I I have I also have stuffed animals, um, and I have a stuffed javelina, um, and who has just you know been one of my loves. I just love her, and it's it's she's a kind of animal I think children would like, but maybe they don't know about, you know, and you know, it's perhaps time to learn about them. Um, like I write about the javelina. One day a javelina ambled by, you know, she said, I'm sensitive like you. Sometimes when I get upset, it helps me to talk to a friend who understands me. Do you want to talk? Aurora did. The javelina joined her, and they soon became friends. Sometimes she enjoyed being with her, and sometimes she preferred to be alone, and both things were okay. And it's my favorite illustration where the javelina is meeting Aurora and their noses are getting close, and they're out in the desert with the amazing cigarro cactuses and desert wildlife and just the gorgeous environment. And and perhaps that'll be different than most children know. Perhaps they haven't been to the desert. And if they live in the UK, there is no desert there to go to. And so I just wanted to introduce the the kids to something, a new looking place, you know, to expand their mind and new animals because the javelina is always like a different kind of animal. She's not like a typical cute animal that everybody loves immediately. She's a different, she has her own personality, she has her own ways, and she's wild, you know, she's not a tang animal. Um, so I I like her. I just I really like her. I've had the pleasure of seeing them um in the desert, um, a little bit south of Tucson in Arizona. And uh so I I've been around them and I I love them. I just have a love for them. So the children might have a love for a special animal when they see it, and maybe they've never seen it before, but they see it now, and suddenly no, they love the cactus wren, you know, or they love the the different kinds of desert plants, the sagebrush, the sagaro cactus, the yucca, and they're all kinds of pictures of these things, and then also another the cutest animal is the kangaroo rat, where they have small ears, a long tail, and large hind feet, and they move by hopping on their back two feet like kangaroos, which is where they got their name. So you see, I'm in heart with all of this. And so I hope I hope the children and adults will will too. And I hope that when the adults read it, they can get into their sensitive child. Yes, yeah, they can see see it not just from the adult point of view with all your concerns and everything that goes on in life, the ups and downs, but to see it as a window into another realm and a time for you to have some fun with this as well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. And I I love that the book is all based around animals and and nature and being in the desert, because I find as highly sensitive people we're so curious and we have such a vivid imagination. And when I was a child, I I loved reading and I I loved being around animals too. For me, it was my my dog who was my best friend as a child. But I I find as empaths, we also have this ability to communicate with nature, with animals, and so it just sounds like the book is a perfect balance of taking the highly sensitive child into that imaginative world where they can yeah, dream up what feels important to them. So I love what you're describing.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, and and just feel some relief that they're not alone, there's nothing wrong with you. Um, you do have to learn certain skills to take care of yourself, and not everyone's gonna understand you. You know, the parent must tell the child that. Right, right. Not everyone understands me, you know. I but some a circle of people do. I mean, a lot of people do now because of my books, you know. But before I I wrote and had such a wide audience, I not very many people understood me for a long time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. So is there anything else you would say or any other advice you would give to a child or a parent who is feeling that way, who's feeling nobody understands me or I am alone in this? Uh, any advice you would offer?
SPEAKER_02Well, I know how much that feeling hurts. Carry it around with you. It's a loneliness that I carried around for many years because I didn't feel the connection. And empaths love to connect. Right. They connect with good people and animals. They love that. But when you don't have it for, let's say, 16 years, the first 16 years of my life, you know, it was uh something that I still feel within me deep down. But no, the the key is to learn to open up to like-minded souls, where at whatever point you're at, whatever age you're at. It could be your inner child is there, your inner, highly sensitive child is always going to be there. Um, and it's your job to take care of her joyously, and to bring the joy. This is what I wanted the have my joy about this book transmitted to you. I wanted you to feel that when you read it, so that in this very challenging day and time, there's a different energy coming at you. There's more of the joyous, pure, innocent. This is what I can do to help myself and my child. You know, it's it's it's important to have that energy during this day and time so we don't feel overwhelmed or we don't forget about it. We don't forget about this. This energy is key. And I feel that sensitive children will save the world. And I really do. I feel very strongly about this because they have such a deep connection to the earth, and they will take care of the earth, they will take care of the climate, they will take care of everything because it's in their nature to do so. It's not an argument, it's not like a debate. It's like, no, I mean, it's like there's you just do one thing, you care for your mother earth, however, you can do that, and the children can do that, but they need to be in good shape. And if they're not in good shape, that kind of rattles the highly sensitive child. So they won't be able to do as much as they could do when they feel freer. And I just wanted to, in a very simple way, give these children a way to feel freer and more confident so they can do what they're meant to do, and they will.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, beautiful. I completely agree with that. I I definitely feel that the highly sensitive children are exactly what you just said. They're the ones who are gonna make a change and make a shift in society and culture, the the change that we need to see. And, you know, you were talking about the beauty and the joy, and I think it's so important to remember that because I hear a lot of people talking about sensitivity in terms of the struggles and the anxiety and the overwhelm. And of course, that's part of it, but we need to also, yeah, connect with our gifts and the joy and the beauty that we see in the world because there is so much. So I really appreciate you highlighting the net.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes. We we need to we need to come together in that joy and not forget about it and not just go down the drain with the rest of you know the universe, which is you know, so bound up in in suffering and pain and disillusionment. You know, you must live your own life and choose what direction you want to go in. And I'm offering you a direction with this particular path. And I think it's a beautiful path. You know about this path, about the highly sensitive person becoming empowered. It's a beautiful path. It's something to continue your entire life.
SPEAKER_01So when is the book coming out? When can the listeners uh get ready and prepared to buy this exciting book, The Highly Sensitive Rabbit?
SPEAKER_02Um, it's available for pre-order now, and you can actually put the book in your hand on October 7th and thereafter. So it's just a couple more weeks before they ship it, but you can get it now and um share it with people, you know, share it with everyone as far as I'm concerned. Give it to the children. Christmas, you know, Thanksgiving, any day. We should have a highly sensitive day, shouldn't we? Oh, that's a great idea. We should. I know. Everyone, all the highly sensitives can just celebrate one another. Just make that the day you open the book.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, brilliant. So perhaps it can be the day that your book is being released and we can celebrate um highly sensitive children all around the world. I love that. Let's do it. So thank you so much for being on the podcast today. Is there anything you feel we haven't shared or anything you want to add before we close today?
SPEAKER_02Um, just if people would like to reach me, you can get me at dr judithorlofforlof.com. And I have an empath support newsletter once a month. If you want to get on it, and I send out tips and tricks to being about being an empath, and that's on my website. Um and um I have all kinds of free uh videos and blogs and information. If you want information about this topic, I've got a lot of free information, so you know, just enjoy it, enjoy learning. It's a beautiful path. And I look forward to meeting some of you along the way. I'm doing various book events, um, at least in the US. I'm not gonna be in the UK, unfortunately. I was just in Scotland, as I was telling you. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Whereabouts in the US will you be doing your book launches?
SPEAKER_02And mainly in Los Angeles, and they start October 11th and 12th. I'm gonna be at Diesel Books in Brentwood. Uh, I'm gonna be at Barnes and Noble in Huntington Beach, and then at Broman's in Pasadena, all kind of circled around October. Great, fantastic. We'd love you to come to the UK again. I would love that. I just love it so much. I was thinking about how I can get myself to come back to Scotland and the UK. So I really had a good time and had a good connection with the earth there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the land is beautiful here. So thank you so much for sharing your website and your resources as well. I will put the links to everything in the show notes so everyone can access that easily and the link to the book. So thank you again for joining us today.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you're so welcome. Thank you for having me on.
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